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		<title>Historically informed vs useful</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 00:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pictures of medieval encampments show mostly round tents, with the occasional large double bell and a few more rectangular tents. See? Lots of people want a tent that they can fit a double bed in.  But if you do that &#8230; <a href="http://saravandenhove.wordpress.com/2012/01/13/historically-informed-vs-useful/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=saravandenhove.wordpress.com&amp;blog=4522658&amp;post=244&amp;subd=saravandenhove&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pictures of medieval encampments show mostly round tents, with the occasional large double bell and a few more rectangular tents. See?</p>
<p><a href="http://home.adelphi.edu/~sbloch/sca/tents/pictures/romance.jpeg"><img src="http://home.adelphi.edu/~sbloch/sca/tents/pictures/romance.jpeg" alt="" width="239" height="220" /></a><a href="http://home.adelphi.edu/~sbloch/sca/tents/pictures/king_rene/krtents.far.jpg"><img src="http://home.adelphi.edu/~sbloch/sca/tents/pictures/king_rene/krtents.far.jpg" alt="" width="244" height="212" /></a><a href="http://home.adelphi.edu/~sbloch/sca/tents/pictures/king_rene/krtents.near.jpg"><img src="http://home.adelphi.edu/~sbloch/sca/tents/pictures/king_rene/krtents.near.jpg" alt="" width="233" height="172" /></a><a href="http://home.adelphi.edu/sbloch/ma/tents/pictures/froissart/i4_0012.jpg"><img src="http://home.adelphi.edu/sbloch/ma/tents/pictures/froissart/i4_0012.jpg" alt="" width="167" height="175" /></a></p>
<p>Lots of people want a tent that they can fit a double bed in.  But if you do that with a circular tent you can end up with <a title="Tent Designs – Circus Tent" href="http://saravandenhove.wordpress.com/2010/04/10/tent-designs-circus-tent/">quite a large round tent</a>.</p>
<p>You can do it easily if you put the bed between the<a title="The small double bell" href="http://saravandenhove.wordpress.com/2011/05/15/the-small-double-bell/"> poles of a double bell</a>.  Or even in a <a title="A geteld pattern" href="http://saravandenhove.wordpress.com/2010/06/16/a-geteld-pattern/">bell wedge</a>, with a double bed low to the ground.</p>
<p>It seems that the goal of historical reenactment conflicts with the desires of the modern world.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to keep looking for encampment pictures.</p>
<p>added 14/1/2012:  <a href="http://www.st-max.org/images-tents.htm">Landsknecht encampment woodcuts</a></p>
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		<title>Family sized double bell</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 23:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>khovenga</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#8217;ve made this tent 4 times now.  It seems to be a popular size &#8211; you can fit a double bed and three single beds if you wish, or just a double bed and a lot of stuff! Here&#8217;s my &#8230; <a href="http://saravandenhove.wordpress.com/2012/01/12/family-sized-double-bell/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=saravandenhove.wordpress.com&amp;blog=4522658&amp;post=240&amp;subd=saravandenhove&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://saravandenhove.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/front-view.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-241" title="front view" src="http://saravandenhove.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/front-view.jpg?w=300&#038;h=205" alt="" width="300" height="205" /></a><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/36906401@N00/5667603556/in/set-72157626603601102/"><img class="alignright" src="http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5261/5667603556_a9e8a39619_z.jpg" alt="" width="273" height="205" /></a>We&#8217;ve made this tent 4 times now.  It seems to be a popular size &#8211; you can fit a double bed and three single beds if you wish, or just a double bed and a lot of stuff!</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my concern though: <a title="Historically informed vs useful" href="http://saravandenhove.wordpress.com/2012/01/13/historically-informed-vs-useful/">when you look at pictures of military camps, with lots of tents, most are round! </a> It would be better (?) to have mostly round tents, with fewer of these double bell sort.  Or find some other pictures, with more rectangular and double bell tents.</p>
<p>Anyway, here&#8217;s the layout, with rectangles for the beds and people (click to download the pdf) :</p>
<p><a href="http://saravandenhove.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/layout.pdf"><img class="wp-image-243 alignnone" title="layout" src="http://saravandenhove.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/layout-e1326406343825.jpg?w=497&#038;h=351" alt="" width="497" height="351" /></a></p>
<p>This tent style has had several door concepts:</p>
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<li>One 2m wide door on the long side</li>
<li>Doors at each short end and in line with the poles on the long side</li>
<li>A 2m wide door on each of the long sides</li>
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<p>I like option 3 the best.  It means that you can open the whole tent to catch the breezes and you can put it into tourney mode with the doors up as verandah&#8217;s for extra shade.</p>
<p>This tent uses about 30m of canvas (including extra for a pole and tent bags).  Here&#8217;s the cutting pattern (and pdf):<br />
<a href="http://saravandenhove.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/cutting-layout.PDF"><img class="alignnone  wp-image-246" title="CUTTING LAYOUT" src="http://saravandenhove.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/cutting-layout.jpg?w=451&#038;h=318" alt="" width="451" height="318" /></a></p>
<p>The sewing layout:</p>
<p><a href="http://saravandenhove.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/sewing-layout.pdf"><img class="alignnone  wp-image-249" title="SEWING LAYOUT" src="http://saravandenhove.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/sewing-layout.jpg?w=456&#038;h=322" alt="" width="456" height="322" /></a></p>
<p>And the detailed measurements used to make the shapes.  We usually measure one piece with these measurements and then use that piece as a template for the others.  The wall pieces have a 4omm sewing allowance, with 100mm for the eave.</p>
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		<title>The small double bell</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 11:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>khovenga</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This was a tent made as a commission.  The new owner wanted a tent that would fit a double bed but would pack down small enough to fit in a small hatchback. The walls are not permanently attached to the &#8230; <a href="http://saravandenhove.wordpress.com/2011/05/15/the-small-double-bell/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=saravandenhove.wordpress.com&amp;blog=4522658&amp;post=225&amp;subd=saravandenhove&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://saravandenhove.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/corinnas-tent-at-festival.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-226 alignleft" title="corinnas tent at festival" src="http://saravandenhove.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/corinnas-tent-at-festival.jpg?w=300&#038;h=225" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a>This was a tent made as a commission.  The new owner wanted a tent that would fit a double bed but would pack down small enough to fit in a small hatchback.</p>
<p>The walls are not permanently attached to the roof, they work similarly to the <a title="The new, rectangular tent" href="http://saravandenhove.wordpress.com/2010/04/10/the-new-rectangular-tent/">prototype </a>and the <a title="The Innilgard Baronial Pavilion – design and construction" href="http://saravandenhove.wordpress.com/2010/06/16/the-innilgard-baronial-pavilion-design-and-construction/">Innilgard </a>tents, with loops and wooden toggles.</p>
<p>The floorplan and dimensions are based on the rectangular prototype tent, but we used bell ends because we knew we could make a pretty tent that <a title="Prototype review" href="http://saravandenhove.wordpress.com/2010/11/13/prototype-review/">didn&#8217;t sag</a>.  I&#8217;m glad we succeeded.  It&#8217;s also good to know that these dimensions work without a ridge pole.  It suggests that the <a title="The new, rectangular tent" href="http://saravandenhove.wordpress.com/2010/04/10/the-new-rectangular-tent/">rectangular tent </a>could also work without a ridge pole, as long as we sort out the forces on the ends.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking for a good picture of a double bell.  Most of the ones in the pictures I have looked at seem to be much larger than the tents nearby and there is only one or two in a field of round tents.  The same goes for rectangular tents too &#8211; there are only one or two and most others are round.  It&#8217;s a shame that double beds don&#8217;t fit easily into a round tent.  Hmmm&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://saravandenhove.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/corinna-tent-model-1.pdf"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-227" title="Corinna tent Model (1)" src="http://saravandenhove.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/corinna-tent-model-1.jpg?w=300&#038;h=212" alt="Click to download the pdf" width="300" height="212" /></a>Here&#8217;s the plan and elevation of the small double bell tent.  I&#8217;ve included a rectangular &#8220;person&#8221; and a double bed so you see how things fit. Click the image to download the pdf.</p>
<p>The inside seemed pretty comfy and spacious when we went in.  Although there was a bit of disaster when we went to check how it was going in the rain at Festival.  I was glad to work out that the apparent leak was a user error and not our sewing or construction.  The groundsheet we&#8217;d provided was collecting all of the drips in at the open door and funnelling them towards the bed.  Lesson for tent users!!</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s the pattern I used to cut it out. The pdf includes the pattern layout and the dimensions of each piece.<br />
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		<title>tents with different coloured roofs</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[There has been some conversation about how representative a tent that has a different coloured roof and walls is of the period.  For instance, the Innilgard tent. Here&#8217;s a picture I just found The Siege of Neuss 1474-1475, in book &#8230; <a href="http://saravandenhove.wordpress.com/2011/04/28/tents-with-different-coloured-roofs/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=saravandenhove.wordpress.com&amp;blog=4522658&amp;post=220&amp;subd=saravandenhove&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There has been some conversation about how representative a tent that has a different coloured roof and walls is of the period.  For instance, the <a title="The Innilgard Baronial Pavilion – design and construction" href="http://saravandenhove.wordpress.com/2010/06/16/the-innilgard-baronial-pavilion-design-and-construction/">Innilgard tent.</a></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a picture I just found</p>
<p><a title="See page for author [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons" href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Pfettisheim_neuss.jpg"><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1e/Pfettisheim_neuss.jpg/240px-Pfettisheim_neuss.jpg" alt="Pfettisheim neuss" width="240" /></a></p>
<p>The Siege of <a title="en:Neuss" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuss">Neuss</a> 1474-1475, in book &#8220;Geschichte Peter Hagenbachs und der Burgunderkriege&#8221; by Conradius Pfettisheim, printed 1477 by Heinrich Knoblochtzer in Strassbourg</p>
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		<title>Wardrobe audit</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>khovenga</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tonight I audited Rose&#8217;s Festival clothes and she has the following clothes to wear at a 5 day camping event; red flemish (cotton) blue wool pin on sleeves black wool partlet black linen partlet unfinished white linen partlet black linen &#8230; <a href="http://saravandenhove.wordpress.com/2011/03/30/wardrobe-audit/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=saravandenhove.wordpress.com&amp;blog=4522658&amp;post=218&amp;subd=saravandenhove&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tonight I audited Rose&#8217;s Festival clothes and she has the following clothes to wear at a 5 day camping event;</p>
<p>red flemish (cotton)<br />
blue wool pin on sleeves<br />
black wool partlet<br />
black linen partlet<br />
unfinished white linen partlet<br />
black linen apron<br />
green linen apron<br />
green wool surcoat<br />
purple/red tunic with embroidery around the neck (from celsa &#8211; was this a borrow or a hand me down?)<br />
red wool hood that will fit until she&#8217;s bigger than me<br />
ugly blue wool cloak</p>
<p>Notice  the lack of underwear?  Every chemise she owns will still fit, but her  arms and legs are too long for her.  The hems are at knee height and the  arms at the elbow.  Actually, almost all her dresses are in the same  category &#8211; fit in the body but the skirts are too short.  The only one  that doesn&#8217;t &#8220;fit&#8221; has set in sleeves &#8211; I&#8217;ll avoid them in future.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve  done really well.  Most of the dresses I discarded tonight have been  worn since at least our trip to Canterbury Faire in 2009. That&#8217;s since she was 3 and she&#8217;s now 5.</p>
<p><a href="../2011/03/30/tunic-for-a-5-year-old/">Tonight I patterned some underwear</a>.   I guess I&#8217;ll sew that sometime between now and Festival&#8230; I&#8217;m also  thinking that some more aprons and partlets could be useful, so she can  just change apron and partlet each day and keep her one dress clean  enough.  Otherwise, maybe she&#8217;s ready to just wear plain coloured  linen/wool shifts with a belt.  I guess I could button them at the wrist  so the sleeves can include growing room but not be annoying.  She could  probably dress herself if I went that way&#8230;</p>
<p>Or maybe I could  just make her another flemish in a lightweight wool with a bag lining &#8211;  I made the last one in an hour, not including patterning and I made the pattern tonight too.  I just have to test and computerise it.</p>
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		<title>Tunic for a 5 year old</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tonight I reviewed Rose&#8217;s clothes for festival.  While she can still fit in the tunics I made for her three years ago, her arms and legs are too long for them.  I need to make new ones and I think &#8230; <a href="http://saravandenhove.wordpress.com/2011/03/30/tunic-for-a-5-year-old/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=saravandenhove.wordpress.com&amp;blog=4522658&amp;post=202&amp;subd=saravandenhove&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tonight I reviewed Rose&#8217;s clothes for festival.  While she can still fit in the tunics I made for her three years ago, her arms and legs are too long for them.  I need to make new ones and I think they have to be adult style tunics, to save on fabric.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re loosely based on the <a href="http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~marc-carlson/cloth/stlouis.html">St Louis shirt</a> and the <a href="http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~marc-carlson/cloth/bocktunc.html">bocksten bog man&#8217;s kirtle.</a> This is the pattern I use for <a title="Adult smock" href="http://saravandenhove.wordpress.com/2010/01/18/adult-smock/">my smocks</a> too.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll make them from the 110cm lightweight linen I have.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the cutting and sewing layout for the tunic;</p>
<p><a href="http://saravandenhove.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/5yr-old-t-tunic.pdf"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-205" title="5yr old t-tunic" src="http://saravandenhove.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/5yr-old-t-tunic.jpg?w=375&#038;h=265" alt="" width="375" height="265" /></a></p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t made them yet, but the pattern is based on the measurements I took tonight:</p>
<p>Shoulder to floor &#8211; 94cm</p>
<p>Waist to floor &#8211; 64cm</p>
<p>Chest &#8211; 57cm</p>
<p>Hip/bum &#8211; 64 cm</p>
<p>Arm length 41cm</p>
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		<title>Prototype review</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2010 09:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>khovenga</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We went camping and wanted to travel light, so we took the new tent for a road trip. The tent is a good size, fitting our double bed, a comfy  dressing space at one end and space for armour storage &#8230; <a href="http://saravandenhove.wordpress.com/2010/11/13/prototype-review/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=saravandenhove.wordpress.com&amp;blog=4522658&amp;post=186&amp;subd=saravandenhove&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We went camping and wanted to travel light, so we took the new tent for a road trip.</p>
<p>The tent is a good size, fitting our double bed, a comfy  dressing space at one end and space for armour storage at the other.  At the end of the week, we reduced the size of the dressing space and put our daughter&#8217;s rope bed at the end.</p>
<p>It was pretty easy to put up in the dark, and easy to fiddle with the next day and later in the week when I added the ridge pole.  I could have put it up by myself.</p>
<p>We tried doorways on the side and at the ends, and in future I will set it up with a doorway at each end.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the tent set up:</p>
<p><a href="http://saravandenhove.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/img_18011.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-189" title="IMG_1801" src="http://saravandenhove.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/img_18011.jpg?w=225&#038;h=300" alt="" width="225" height="300" /></a><a href="http://saravandenhove.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/img_1805.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-187" title="IMG_1805" src="http://saravandenhove.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/img_1805.jpg?w=300&#038;h=225" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p>This is after I added a ridge pole and did some substantial fiddling to get it as good as I could.  Here&#8217;s what I&#8217;m going to do to make it better:</p>
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<li>Stiffer ridgepole or a frame  (I made this ridgepole onsite with a length of scotia and some fibre tape for extra stiffness)</li>
<li>A valance will look better and make it more water proof (the eave is too short)</li>
<li>Move the location of the guys to be in line with the poles</li>
<li>I think I will replace the end triangle.  The walls have a generous overlap, so I&#8217;ll still use these walls.</li>
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<p>Here&#8217;s a picture before I put in the ridgepole:</p>
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<p>Looking at the photos, I think I have the width of the roof triangle incorrect.  I think the base of the triangle should be bigger. See?</p>
<p><a href="http://saravandenhove.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/img_18011.jpg"><img title="IMG_1801" src="http://saravandenhove.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/img_18011.jpg?w=225&#038;h=300" alt="" width="225" height="300" /></a><a href="http://saravandenhove.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/i4_0012-detail.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-182" title="i4_0012 detail" src="http://saravandenhove.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/i4_0012-detail.jpg?w=640" alt=""   /></a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m also feeling like I need an internal frame to get that really straight roof eave and perfect corner.  My corners just sagged until we move the rope to the corner.  Not a full frame, just a rectangle at the eave.  Like my bed curtains, and those circular tents with electrical conduit you see around the place.</p>
<p>Otherwise, I should have used <a href="http://saravandenhove.wordpress.com/2010/09/12/details-of-the-arming-tent/">option 1 </a>for my guy pattern.</p>
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		<title>Details of the arming tent</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2010 22:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Edit:  this guy pattern didn&#8217;t work well.  I should have gone with option 1. I&#8217;m up to working out how to do the guy ropes for the arming tent. There are two details of guys from my previous post about &#8230; <a href="http://saravandenhove.wordpress.com/2010/09/12/details-of-the-arming-tent/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=saravandenhove.wordpress.com&amp;blog=4522658&amp;post=180&amp;subd=saravandenhove&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Edit:  this guy pattern didn&#8217;t work well.  I should have gone with option 1.</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;m up to working out how to do the guy ropes for the arming tent.</p>
<p>There are two details of guys from my previous post about this tent.  See the two ropes coming off the single guy?  We call them crow&#8217;s feet.</p>
<p><a href="http://saravandenhove.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/detail-romance.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-181 alignnone" title="detail romance" src="http://saravandenhove.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/detail-romance.jpg?w=640" alt=""   /></a><a href="http://saravandenhove.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/i4_0012-detail.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-182" title="i4_0012 detail" src="http://saravandenhove.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/i4_0012-detail.jpg?w=640" alt=""   /></a></p>
<p>Based on my experience with other rectangular tents, the most important guys are at the corners.  From these pictures, it looks like I have two options;</p>
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<li>A crows foot going around the corner, with the main guy at the corner.</li>
<li>Two crows feet, one at 90 degrees to the other.</li>
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<p>I think I&#8217;m going with option 2.  Ideally, I would space the guys so I can change my mind, but I&#8217;m in a bit of a hurry this morning so here&#8217;s what I&#8217;m doing;</p>
<p><a href="http://saravandenhove.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/guy-layout.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-183" title="guy layout" src="http://saravandenhove.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/guy-layout.jpg?w=640" alt=""   /></a></p>
<p>That&#8217;s 12&#215;3=36 cringles.  the set of 3 are 15cm apart, and there is 700mm between them on the sides. The ends are set 20mm from the corner.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be tying the guys on (no time to make hooks and these pictures don&#8217;t show them).</p>
<p>The guy ropes (measured from my drawing +1m) will be 3.3m long, I&#8217;ll also need 0.5m per foot, so 4.3m per guy/crows foot.  Total rope required = 4.3m x 6 x 2 = 52m.</p>
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		<title>The finished geteld</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 11:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#8217;s a picture of a Geteld made to the pattern in my geteld post. Click on the pictures to see the blog of its construction.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=saravandenhove.wordpress.com&amp;blog=4522658&amp;post=177&amp;subd=saravandenhove&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a picture of a Geteld made to the pattern in my <a href="http://saravandenhove.wordpress.com/2010/06/16/a-geteld-pattern/">geteld post.</a></p>
<p>Click on the pictures to see the blog of its construction.</p>
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		<title>About me</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been a member of the SCA for more than 20 years and I&#8217;m interested in a bunch of things; making clothes (mostly so that my children and I look respectable) making tents ridiculous projects with my Household cooking running &#8230; <a href="http://saravandenhove.wordpress.com/2010/06/30/about-me/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=saravandenhove.wordpress.com&amp;blog=4522658&amp;post=161&amp;subd=saravandenhove&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve been a member of the <a href="http://www.sca.org.au/stormhold">SCA </a>for more than 20 years and I&#8217;m interested in a bunch of things;</p>
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<li><a href="http://saravandenhove.wordpress.com/category/sewing/childrens-clothes/">making clothes </a>(mostly so that my children and I look respectable)</li>
<li><a href="http://saravandenhove.wordpress.com/category/tents/">making tents</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/36906401@N00/sets/72157623298891643/">ridiculous projects with my Household</a></li>
<li>cooking</li>
<li>running events</li>
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<p>This blog is the documentation people have been hassling me to write for  years.</p>
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